DNR "Experts"
Just because they have DNR in their title doesn't mean they know anything. I know alot of people who call themselves electricians and I wouldn't let them wire a dog house!
Jack
Just because they have DNR in their title doesn't mean they know anything. I know alot of people who call themselves electricians and I wouldn't let them wire a dog house!
Jeff Folk, candidate for the RKLD Board of Commissioners, is a wetlands owner, and yet he opposes the LKWA.Do you know whether there are members of LKWA not supporting the group's point of view? Or is it a closed membership group?
Charles
(Published Thursday, July 28, 2005 )
This letter is among the most dishonest ever submitted...
Brian, I am looking forward to the meeting on Sat. I was just looking at the Gazette letter from Roger Martin.
On a nice sunny day last week, I watched some younger children attempt to play and swim in our lake.
Yesterday, Saturday, Lake Koshkonong Wetlands Association founder Linn Duesterbeck hosted an open house to discuss and educate residents about the Lake District's request for 7.2 inches of more water and the elimination of the winter drawdown.
Editor, the Gazette:
Thank you Stephen, and you are correct. I should have removed that one adjective.Dear Mr. Christianson;
I am using every ounce of my Christian nature to provide honest and transparent information to everyone, RKLD supporters and foes alike. Sometimes my heartfelt passion for this lake overwhelms my brain. :-)
BC
I support the efforts of the RKLD, and applaud and appreciate the work of yourself and your predecessors in organizing the RKLD and establishing its agenda for the betterment of the lake and ecosystem. An observation that I have is that this water level request does not have to be a permanent thing. If it turns out to be the ecological disaster that the Wetlands Association and the DNR says, we can lower the level back to where it was in about five minutes. Why not a trial period of a year or two?
My observation of the tactics of the RKLD have been very positive. They are transparent, and reasoned, even in the face of the political (in the worst sense of the word) and opaque methods of the Wetlands Association.
What really inspired me to write to you was your response to the letter from the Smiths that I saw today on the blog. If you had omitted the characterization of their letter as "smarmy", (which it was) you would have focused the power of a reasoned response much more effectively.
I can only imagine that you are very personally invested in this conflict, but I often find it helpful in these situations to let a response "marinate" for a day before I send it.
Sincerely
Stephen Brown
Mr. Smith;Brian,
I regret that expressing my personal position has raised any hostility, and do apologize for being smarmy. You owe me nothing, but I appreciate your consideration and time. I realize that the RKLD's board acts in what it believes to be the best interest of the district, much like a school board.I am aware of several district members who are my neighbors, one an attorney, that opposed rebuilding the Indianford damm. Birdwatchers etc., who wanted the lake restored to its natural state. I know of two families who moved from Vinnie HaHa fearing higher taxation of being in a lake district. Nancy and I have no such concerns with the property tax rate and it is not a factor in forming our opinion. I will not venture a guess on what motivates the DNR Secretary's beliefs, and don't know what his/hers expertise is on this matter.
Mark Twain once said, " An expert is a fool a long way from home".
Fortunately, the locals will decide on July 30th. You have expressed the position of the RKLD to nominally raise the lake level in open and honest terms. So have those with different views. We will accept the will of the majority and continue to live here with pleasure. This will end my discourse.
RS
Mr. and Mrs. Smith;
Brian,
After living on this water system for the last 10+ years we feel that
Because we will be out of town on Saturday, July 30, 2005 I wish to take this means of voicing our opinion on the proposed budget for the Lake District. After have read some of the reports by the DNR regarding the Koshkonong Lake we are opposed to any proposals that would be counter to the findings of the DNR.
Mr. Martin;
Brian Christianson:
Do I recall reading the menu at the Lake House Inn which showed drawings of people using the area for recreational swimming and boating back in the early part of the 20th century? And still they come every summer as demonstrated by the number of permanent campsites in the area. The lake and river are an important attraction when you consider the economic advantages.
We went pass Roger Martin's home and they are not on the lake. There house is across the road from the lake. Also want to mention that Margaret Martin has a letter "to the editor" in the Daily Jefferson County Union on July, 13th. The article is almost identical to the letter we received by mail from theIf Mr. and Mrs. Martin think 6 or 7 inches of water won't help get to your dock they must not be boaters. I have an 80ft. pier with 6 inches if tire exposed at the end. In years when the water covers the tire I have not had any problem docking my boat. To me 7 inches of water would be like a foot.
Martin's.
Pat
Hunting Associates must be one of the only sane Wetland Clubs on Lake Koshkonong because we are for higher water, stable water levels, NO winter draw downs...wait a minute, we are for everything the RKLD is for.
Jeff Folk
Mark Tomaszewski
Wow! Just went thru some of the letters. Why is Don Bush an organizer for their pontoon boat trip? Why would anyone lend them a pontoon boat? Do they pay back the DNR for Don's time or does he donate it? This is starting to smell worse than the lake with not enough water in it.I do not know the answers to those questions. However, given the Wetlands Club holds their private club meetings at the Janesville DNR Service Center, their cozy, nose-rubbing relationship is no real surprise.
Ted
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From all of the feedback I'm hearing, the Martin letter has definitely backfired for the LKWA.
REALLY, what is the DNR's ultimate goal here, to create a giant 11,000 acre toxic waste swamp uninhabitable by man or beast ?!? The water level is so low that the wet lands are being drained, isn't this detrimental to the DNR's demands. This has became a senseless battle that the DNR can not win. Why can't the DNR & the hunt clubs be responsible, work together with all the people & reach a compromise ???
Lake Koshkonong should available for the enjoyment of ALL the people... including boaters. Let's bring the water to a safe and sane level so that the time spent while family boating and fishing can be fun again, not the dangerous exercise in futility it is today. ALL the people deserve it.IT'S TIME TO PUT THIS ISSUE TO BED IF IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO GET THIS ISSUE RESOLVED THEN SO BE IT THIS ISSUE IS JUST LIKE THE LAKE STAGNANT Mark Tomaszewski
Kevin
Three props wrecked on rocks in the last two years.
Matt Wellenkotter
We have lived on the Rock River in Newville for 38 years and fully support the RKLD in its quest for higher water levels.
IT IS WAY PAST TIME THAT THE WATER LEVELS WERE RAISED TO A LEVEL WHERE THE BOATERS, AS WELL AS THE WETLAND OWNERS, COULD ENJOY THE LAKE.Bird watchers? Are you kidding? Raising the water 7.2 inches is not going to adversely affect birds or fish. Martin said it himself...people move here to boat. Safety is another big issue, when when rescue boats can not navigate in the the low water.
THANK YOU
THOMAS KELLY
I believe in the facts presented by the environmental study that has been funded by the Lake District. I am in complete support of the lake districts efforts to increase and stabilize water levels. It is unfortunate that it will take additional tax dollars to fight for approval of the Lake District’s (OUR) request But if that’s what it takes, then I am in complete support of increasing the special tax charge to support the effort.
Bruce Harrison
After 30 tears of having and improving our house and enjoying the views, we are hoping to retire to our house on the lake. Well, after 30 years of promises with the water level, I do believe that the people in charge who make these decisions do not care about us, I am sure if they had family, kids or relatives that depend on the lake to support their family, they might look at things a little different.
It's time we recognize our lake as more than just a currently, shallow body of water. It impacts businesses, employment, taxes and the overall economic health of the region. We can have a lake that meets the needs of the users, is ecologically viable, and still contributes to the needs of the area. It's time to move ahead and meet all those objectives.
You can most certainly add my name to those supporting higher water. Many of the piers I have put out are unusable because of the low water.Having come from Lake Delavan, which had its share of problems in the 80's, and finally a dredging and subsequent kill-off of the rough fish, I have to say that at sometimes strong measures are needed to address a number of problems that not all realize are there. The fish are thriving and the lake has become much healthier, envying its sister lake, Geneva. Change is hard to accept but some times it is best. I think our time has come for our change for the betterment of all.
Dorothy Zaccari
Thank you DNR for causing my son to become sick from all the algae in the river.I'm sick of green stinking water can't even sit out on our deck and enjoy the summer!!
Patrick Durante
What happened to the river and lake I have fished , boated and enjoyed for many years ? When can I take my boat out and not be worried about hitting submerged objects in spots I never had to worry about in years past ? When can I launch my boat in Fort Atkinson and head either upstream to the rapids and beyond or to Kosh without the fear of damaging my boat like I once did ?
We have lived up here for seventeen years. We have gone through a season like this several times in these past years. It is unthinkable that the people who are on the DNR (God only knows their background) can dictate to us how we are suppose to live with these conditions. We cannot even get our boat off the lift, unless of course, if my husband injures his back in the process.
I have been part of Lake Koshkonong for the last 39 years. I discovered Lake Koshkonong just after getting married in 1965. My in-laws owned a home on the lake in the Edgerton area. My wife and my children fell in love with the lake and now I have also owned lake property on the North Shore of Lamp Road for the last 10 years.
It is a crime against the environment to let the lake level fall as the DNR mandates.
Re- R & M Martin letter today. All 14 statements are BS or irelevant without facts of any kind to back them up.I live on the lake @ N987 Vinne Haha Rd. and find it hard for anyone to justify keeping the water levels so low all year long for a couple of weeks of good duck hunting that the hunters enjoy, when 10 times the number of hunters could be enjoying the higher water for 3 or 4 months during the summer boating & recreation months.
Ron
Please let us have some more water to enjoy boating and fishing. I've already went thru two props this year and this low water is dangerous for skiing.My wife and I have lived and worked around the lake for more than 35 years helping maintain our family frontage and create a place for our kids and grand kids to play, swim and in general just have fun as we did when we were kids. Now with the water level as low as it is we can not allow the kids to play in the stench because of the low water anymore. What are the duck hunters going to do when people start getting sick or even die from this fowl water?
Steve
On Saturday, April 30th, we informed RKLD constituents that the Wetlands Club had requested the names and addresses of all property taxpayers within the lake district boundaries.
Thank you to the following volunteers for rescuing the 2005 annual newsletter from printer snafus;
Jeff Folk
Ed Sandner
Shelley Sandner
Doug Sandner
Larry Kundert
Frank Micale and Cindy
Terry Micale
Larry Schroeder
Candy Schroeder
Brian Christianson
Ray Lunder
Gayle Lunder
Nicole Lunder
Weston Lunder
Meeting minutes from the LKWA website:
From Janesville Gazette Sound-Off, July 6th;
On Lake Level: I live north of Janesville on the Rock River, and I'd like to know how the Koshkonong lake district's proposal to raise the water level will effect my water level. It would seem that if they hold back water for rich boaters on the lake, there will be less water for us. I'd like the lake district and the DNR to explain this clearly.That person should take his head out of the paper bag; the Centerway Dam controls the river water level below Indianford. As for the District wanting to raise the lake level and then to say if we raise the lake level they won’t have any water is all BS as they will continue to get the same amount of water flow allowable according to the flows received in the lake. All the district would be doing is holding back 7.2 more inches after the periodic high flow periods, which would not affect the water flow above or below the Indianford Dam once the lake level of 776.8 was achieved.
I don't understand why this guy Norbert Jim Johnson would write such an E-mail to you in the manner he did, isn't this guy considering a run for chairman & if so it looks as though he is only doing it for his own personal gain.Mr. Johnson is a CPA, per his bio. I can only guess that the LKWA is now engaged in a game of gotcha.
We don't need anymore BS, red tape or? delays, we need people who really care about the cause & will not make matters worse.
What has this guy done to show he cares about the cause other than position himself for personal kick backs as observed by his E-mail ???
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Brian:
State statutes require an AUDIT of the financial statement be presented at the annual meeting s 33.29(2). Jerry told me that the Board have hired Larson Accounting to do something on the 12/31/04 financial statements, it can't be an audit because Mr. Larson is not a CPA licensed by the State of Wisconsin.
I expect that you will comply with the law and have an audit of the 12/31/04 financial statements available at the annual meeting.
Norbert Jim Johnson
Mr. Johnson:
Check the statutes. You are not correct.
The statute you cite contains no requirement that the audit be conducted by a CPA.
This advice concurs with the information in the UW publication entitled “A Guide to Wisconsin’s Lake Management Law” (10th ed., 1996) which states: “The law does not specify further requirements for this audit which may be performed by an accounting firm or by an internal committee.”
The District’s retention of Larson Accounting to perform the audit complies with the statute and the audit can be presented or submitted to the Annual Meeting.
I read this & think, you don't have to be a scientist, an engineer or have a PHD in chemistry to know that if you want to dilute the parts per million of a contaminate with in a particular solution, just add H2O, WATER !!!!
For precision sake, if I am not mistaken, the flow is proportionate to the rate of water going into the lake, and not as much as height.
ON THE NORTH END OF THE LAKE BY THE RIVER, AS YOU ARE COMING OUT OF THE RIVER, HEADED SOUTH. ON ANY GIVEN WEEKEND, WITH THE LOW WATER LEVEL CONTRIBUTING TO THIS PROBLEM.
I am writing in regards to the water levels on the Rock River and
My name is Jeffrey L Folk. I graduated form Milton High School in 1983, Blackhawk Technical College with a associate degree in Electro Mechanical Technology. I served a 5 year state indentured apprenticeship as an electrician. I have my Master electrician's license and I'm a member of IBEW Local 890 for 16 years. I work as an electrician for UW Madison.
I am an environmental toxicologist in the Water Quality Standards Section at the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources in Madison, and I am currently serving as the coordinator of a statewide blue-green algae (BGA) monitoring project. The purpose of this message is to notify you that we have detected high concentrations of blue-green algae in a sample collected from the following lake in your county: